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    Android Daily Superthread (Nov 30 2021) - Your daily thread for questions, device recommendations and general discussions!

    Android Daily Superthread (Nov 30 2021) - Your daily thread for questions, device recommendations and general discussions!


    Daily Superthread (Nov 30 2021) - Your daily thread for questions, device recommendations and general discussions!

    Posted: 30 Nov 2021 04:00 AM PST

    Note 1. Check MoronicMondayAndroid, which serves as a repository for our retired weekly threads. Just pick any thread and Ctrl-F your way to wisdom!

    Note 2. Join our IRC and Telegram chat-rooms! Please see our wiki for instructions.

    Please post your questions here. Feel free to use this thread for general questions/discussion as well.

    The /r/Android wiki now has a list of recommended phones and covers most areas, the links have been added below. Any suggestions or changes are welcome. Please contact us if you would like to help maintain this section.

    Entry level (most affordable devices costing under $250 (US)/ $325 (Canada)/ €200 (Europe)/ £200/ ₹12,500 (India)

    Midrange section, covering the $250-500(US)/$300-700(Canada)/€200-500/£200-450/₹12,500-30,000 segment

    Flagship section, containing the most expensive devices with the highest end specifications

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    Google Play apps downloaded 300,000 times stole bank credentials

    Posted: 29 Nov 2021 08:21 PM PST

    Wear OS gets redesigned 'System updates' screen that explicitly mentions the 'Android version'

    Posted: 29 Nov 2021 08:36 PM PST

    Google Play’s Best of 2021

    Posted: 29 Nov 2021 08:38 PM PST

    I tested two 1TB microSDXC cards in four Android phones from 2016 through 2020. What kind of differences can you expect between U3/A2 speed cards from different price classes?

    Posted: 29 Nov 2021 05:43 AM PST

    Images and graphics related to this post on Imgur: https://imgur.com/a/3nCa34x . There is also a Google Drive spreadsheet with my measurements and details of the hardware used.

    TLDR;

    A smartphone's internal storage will typically offer you up to 10x higher read and write speeds than removable microSD can. The Sandisk Extreme PRO 1TB (U3/A2) offers double the write speed as the more budget-oriented Amazon Basics 1TB (U3). Read access is very similar all around. If you do write-intensive things with your storage, such as 4K video, it could be worth looking out for deals for a premium brand SD card, rather than going for the cheapest U3/A2 option.

    In spite of using the Sandisk Extreme Pro 1TB in 3 different daily drivers over the past year, I saw no degradation of its performance. By contrast, I did see such degradation in some of my older cards in my 2020 test. However, note that I never exceeded 85% storage on the Extreme Pro 1TB.

    Becoming a rare feature

    Micro SD seems to be disappearing from new smartphones. Of course iPhones and Google Pixels never had SD slots for storage expansion. But in recent years, also Samsung (which produces microSD cards) has released flagships without the expansion option. Of course plenty of midrange and budget Android phones still give you the option for removable storage. The only major brand that currently offers the option with their flagships, is Sony with their Experia 1 and 5 lines and the recently announced Pro-I.

    Until early this year, when they announced leaving the smartphone market, LG also produced flagships with SD slots. For this comparison, I used 4 of my LG phones released between 2016 and 2020.

    2020 vs 2021: two new phones and two the same

    Last year, I did an elaborate test of seven A1/A2/U3 microSDXC cards in four Android phones that I had available then, including one V20 running Nougat. In 2020, I did not have the V60 and V50 yet to test with. Last year, two of the phones ran Android 10, this year three of the four run Android 11.

    During my most recent tests, I did not find anything that contradicts with my findings from then, so I still highly recommend the post, if you haven't read it already.

    01 - Read Speeds (MB/s)

    Brand Internal Storage 1) Sandisk Amazon Basics
    Speed branding A2/U3 (Extreme PRO, Black/Gold) U3
    Capacity 1TB 1TB
    LG V60 1394 90 80
    LG G8X 745 66 77
    LG V50 732 69 84
    LG V20 456 73 58
    Average 78 76

    (Sequential) Read speeds - My takeaway: Relatively small range between cards: 62-78 MB/s

    02 - Write Speeds (MB/s)

    Brand Internal Storage 1) Sandisk Amazon Basics
    Speed branding A2/U3 (Extreme PRO, Black/Gold) U3
    Capacity 1TB 1TB
    LG V60 726 63 27
    LG G8X 488 62 26
    LG V50 479 60 28
    LG V20 154 45 22
    Average 59 26

    (Sequential) Write speeds - My takeaway - Large range: 26-59 MB/s - so expect big differences in performance. The speed differences are also significant on the oldest V20.

    How I tested

    • Room temperature - in the frisky 17-19 Celsius (62-66 F) range in my case
    • No case or skin - cases and skins can impact heat dissipation and thus SoC temperature and influence results
    • Airplane mode ON - poor cellular (indoors) and Wifi reception can keep the SoC and battery busy, which can blur the results
    • Localization (GPS) OFF - same reason as airplane mode
    • Anti-malware de-installed - BitDefender Security installed on several phones. I had it de-installed for running the tests.
    • Battery in the 30%-100% range - Below 30% battery, heat and performance effects can occur. Not something you want to blur results with.
    • No charging during benchmark runs - Charging = heat = potential performance impact
    • No USB-C devices connected during benchmark runs (although I use it for screenshots in between tests)
    • At least 34% free space on tested medium. Last year, I noticed that available space can have an impact on the performance, especially with certain longer used cards. For this 1:1 comparison I actually cloned the contents of my Sandisk daily driver card to the Amazon Basics one. So both had the exact same data set.
    • Like for the 2020 tests, I started out with using the elaborate AndroBench app. I ran 3 tests for each combination. Unfortunately, the app is no longer maintained and it does not work well with SD cards anymore since Google made changes in Android 11. It does still work well with internal storage and on the V20 running Oreo. Several other apps had similar problems, but SD Card Test by developer Zoltan Pallagi worked OK.
    • 1) = Internal Storage tests in the table were done with taking the average of 3 AndroBench runs. MicroSD tests done (only one run per device, due to time constraints) with the free version of SD Card Test by developer Zoltan Pallagi

    Overview of my raw test data and analysis

    About the (Androbench) screenshots: You can make sure-fire screenshots from the AndroBench log using an external keyboard (USB using hub or OTG cable or bluetooth), provided the external keyboard has a PrtScr key.

    Note that AndroBench tends to reset very easily to the internal memory setting, e.g. if you connect or disconnect USB-C devices. So always check which you are measuring: internal or microSD.

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    TWRP 3.6.0 was released yesterday with full Android 11 support

    Posted: 29 Nov 2021 11:50 AM PST

    Spotify is retiring Car View, and users are understandably pissed

    Posted: 28 Nov 2021 03:59 PM PST

    Realme GT2 Pro renders leak

    Posted: 29 Nov 2021 03:05 AM PST

    Daily Superthread (Nov 29 2021) - Your daily thread for questions, device recommendations and general discussions!

    Posted: 29 Nov 2021 04:00 AM PST

    Note 1. Check MoronicMondayAndroid, which serves as a repository for our retired weekly threads. Just pick any thread and Ctrl-F your way to wisdom!

    Note 2. Join our IRC and Telegram chat-rooms! Please see our wiki for instructions.

    Please post your questions here. Feel free to use this thread for general questions/discussion as well.

    The /r/Android wiki now has a list of recommended phones and covers most areas, the links have been added below. Any suggestions or changes are welcome. Please contact us if you would like to help maintain this section.

    Entry level (most affordable devices costing under $250 (US)/ $325 (Canada)/ €200 (Europe)/ £200/ ₹12,500 (India)

    Midrange section, covering the $250-500(US)/$300-700(Canada)/€200-500/£200-450/₹12,500-30,000 segment

    Flagship section, containing the most expensive devices with the highest end specifications

    submitted by /u/curated_android
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    The Android notification shade is more confusing than it's ever been. Here is why.

    Posted: 28 Nov 2021 01:13 PM PST

    Had android phones from Cupcake to Honey Comb. I went to Apple until Android Kit Kat and have been using Android since then.

    I have embraced a lot of change and for the most part have really liked the direction Android has taken throughout the years. I had an OG pixel and now a Pixel 3. Android 12 though, may be insufferable and I attribute most of it to the notification shade.

    The swipe and tap gymnastics are enough to make me lose my mind. I'm willing to overlook the design choice of big buttons for quick settings and brightness, but here are a few gripes that I can't stand.

    • Reappearing ghost phone call notifications (Thought would be fixed in beta)
    • Lingering Gmail notifications after quick actions like "archive"
    • Lack of Wifi toggle - I know there is an APK for it. ​
    • Quick settings are hidden behind at least 2 taps and sometimes a swipe as well (Not that quick...)
    • 2 swipes down to fully expand the shade, but 3 swipes up
    • Extra swipe to remove/show the date at the top of the shade when it could replace the Android version number below the quick setting 12 (SP1A.210812.016.A1)
    • Inconsistent swipe gesture on notifications to expand them (Sometimes they expand, sometimes it moves the shade, sometimes I have to tap the down arrow icon)
    • several errors I can't reproduce like when quick-replying to messages the keyboard will cover the text input window.

    I do like how the notification shade goes transparent when adjusting screen brightness. Slick.

    I know it's an old trope to say this, but I am going to try iOS for my next phone. Google used to persuade me with free Google Photo storage on new Pixel phones, but I don't see them doing that in the future, and Android is getting less intuitive by the update. I just really wanted to document some of my thoughts and hope that this can be taken very constructively. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

    I would love to have a website / thread that documents the problems with various areas of Android 12. I could write a whole other post on what they did to the poor calculator.

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