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    October 30, 2021

    Android Daily Superthread (Oct 29 2021) - Your daily thread for questions, device recommendations and general discussions!

    Daily Superthread (Oct 29 2021) - Your daily thread for questions, device recommendations and general discussions!

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 05:00 AM PDT

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    Can we talk about how Material You has only removed customization options.

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 11:32 AM PDT

    Just got Android 12 on my pixel 5 yesterday. For an update that's marketed as being about "You", all Google has done is removed options to customize.

    Let's refresh ourselves on what Android 11 can do.

    • Choose from 7 Fonts.
    • Choose from 7 quick setting icon styles.
    • Choose from 14 colours.
    • Choose from 7 App shapes.
    • Choose the Grid size.
    • You can then save all those as a profile, so you can easily switch between profiles.

    Now let's look at Android 12 with Material You.

    • You can either have an AI generate colours based on your wallpaper, or select from 4 basic colours.
    • You can toggle on "Themed Icons", which is just a single alternative style only for Google's own apps.
    • The grid size option is still there.

    That's it.

    This is objectively worse for customization. I have less choice when it comes to colours, and I have no choice of quick setting icon styles, no choice of app shapes, no choice of font, and no saved profiles.

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    Phonebuff battery test (WiFi only) - Pixel 6 Pro vs. iPhone 13 Pro Max vs, Galaxy S21 Ultra

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 11:04 PM PDT

    it seems that i have to use my Pixel 3 until i die, because of the non existant "small" phones anymore

    Posted: 30 Oct 2021 01:21 AM PDT

    I just realized that i probably have to use my Pixel 3 until i die. I ordered a Pixel 6 despite the size, i thought maybe i will get used to how huge it is. It came on wednesday and the first thing that came to my mind as i was unboxing it was how damn huge and heavy it is. So today is saturday and i just shipped it back to Google. It is just too huge for me. I cant comfortable use it with one hand.

    I just searched a price comparison site, with filter for maximum length of 150mm and listed since 2021 and the only phones were iPhones or weird crappy phones.

    I hate iOS and i know i will never get used to it, so there is no option for me for a new phone and i hate it. There are soooo many options for big phones but none for small ones anymore.

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    Introducing JioPhone Next, the Made-for-India Smartphone

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 04:53 AM PDT

    Exynos 2100 = S5E9840 Tensor / GS101 = S5E9845 Confirmed - Andrei F

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 08:22 AM PDT

    Android 12 growing pains?

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 08:20 AM PDT

    I'm seeing a lot of feature related reviews and some positive response for the latest update. As a Pixel 5 user I have to say I'm not finding the visual overhaul to be very intuitive, and I'm not personally seeing any useful improvements. I don't use widgets really so that's probably part of why the benefits are lost on me. But usually after a day or so I get used to a visual update and move on. This time I find myself continually bothered by the changes.

    Am I the only one? Curious to see others' thoughts, both positive and negative.

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    Every Fast Charging Standard Explained[Techquickie]

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 10:17 AM PDT

    Pixel 6 Pro vs. Samsung S21 Ultra (Snapdragon) Actual Comparison

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 12:02 PM PDT

    Alright, I've been comparing the two side by side for about a day now and there are some GLARING differences that I have not heard mentioned or seen in reviews. I don't know how it's possible since if you compare side by side it's incredibly obvious, but here we go:

    To set the stage, I've owned every Pixel since the 2 except for the 5. Have owned OP 7Pro and S21 Ultra the last few years in between and was extremely excited about Google finally making a flagship. Sadly, I think they fell short (except for the cameras.)

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    • Display
      • This isn't even close. The S21 Ultra's display is much brighter and clearer than the P6 Pros. When I watched a 1440p side by side video on YouTube the S21s 1/4 brightness is the P6s 3/4 brightness. Not to mention the video just looked better
      • You really have to dial up the brightness on the P6. At 50% brightness it looks like it is still in dim mode.
      • No way to change between HD, FHD or QHD on P6. How is this possible?
    • Fingerprint sensor
      • I don't know how more people aren't shaming Google for putting in an optical sensor rather than ultrasonic. The speed of the ultrasonic on the S21 and being able to unlock the phone even when the phone is completely locked and the screen is blank is fantastic. On P6, you have to tap to wake, then literally push your finger down on the phone while a giant flashlight scans your finger to unlock it much slower than S21. At night when in bed, this is an issue if my partner is trying to sleep and there is constantly a flashlight turning on and off when I need to unlock my phone. This is almost unforgivable, IMO
      • No option to turn off unlock animation, not even in developer options. Can turn it off on S21 easily.
      • Speaking of unlocking, no face unlock on P6. Oye.
    • General performance
      • I've seen speed tests where both phones are neck and neck. I'm not sure how because every task I have done side by side, the S21 loads faster and feels faster. Buffering on YouTube is almost non-existent when you are skipping ahead whereas every time you do that on P6 it buffers and has to load for a quick second.
    • Power button placement above the volume rocker on P6.
      • How did this get approval in the first design stages?! It's a little thing that is such an easy fix but now it's in an awkward, not easy to use place, since your finger rests where the volume keys are.
    • Gyroscope on the P6 is very slow.
      • Going into landscape mode on anything has a 1 - 2 second delay where the S21s is almost instant
    • Cameras
      • P6 Photos look great, but I don't think it's because of the new sensor yet. They look very similar to old P5 photos in good conditions
      • Night photos look better if you don't turn on night-sight on P6
      • Video is pretty equal between both. This is where Google has probably noticeably progressed the most
      • The ultra-wide on P6 can barely be called that. Not sure why they chose such a narrow sensor when using all new hardware.
    • Battery
      • I'll need to keep using P6 to see how the adaptive battery works but out of the box it is sad to see that even with Google Tensor there seems to be a lack of optimization.
    • Stock Android 12 vs. Samsung One UI Beta (Android 12) - I like the design of stock Android but some simple functionality hinders it and makes simple tasks annoying.
      • Wi-fi toggle...are you kidding me, Google? Sometimes I wonder if you actually test your phones or just throw stuff in there half-baked
      • Volume toggle - on P6, you have to click the volume rocker, click the sound profile button and then select if you want it to be on silent, vibrate or volume on. On Samsung, you pull down the task bar and click through which one you want. So much better.
      • Brightness control - you have to swipe down twice on stock Android where it's already there on Samsung and at the bottom of the phone now
      • No double tap to sleep on P6. This has been around on my LG phone from like 7 years ago, what are you waiting for Google?
      • At-a-glance on P6 - Google, how can you not let me turn this off on my homescreen?? I want to use another Google widget I love instead but this never leaves the top left corner.
      • Google search bar on homescreen on P6 - Isn't it about time Google let us take this out and use more of the homescreen for what we want?
      • No quick shortcuts on lockscreen of P6. Two on S21 in bottom corners.
      • Google, stop making us install 3rd party launchers to fix your poor design choices. If you haven't noticed, the people who buy and support Pixels are techies who love as many options as possible. Maybe this is the point to appeal to the masses, but you haven't earned that hardware business model yet. ;)
      • Why can't we build folders in the app drawer on P6 to make things all nice and clean?
    • Final thoughts
      • Tensor seems to be more marketing than anything at this point, except for a couple of handy tools like speech recognition and magic eraser (which I'm sure will come to Google Photos at some point and be widely available.)
      • Google makes great strides and then they completely blowout a hammy in the last quarter mile of a race with really bad mistakes on design, functionality, etc. Who beta tests these phones, honestly?
      • P6 Pro will continue to get better and better as more updates come out, I'm sure. But Google really needs to pay more attention to what competition is doing and understanding what people really like in other Android skins. I'm not sure if it's stubbornness or honest oversight but they have to get better.
      • Isn't it time Google got on a better calendar cycle when releasing hardware? Now with Tensor they shouldn't be constrained. Stop releasing at the end of the year and get in the game with Samsung! S22 will probably be EVEN faster than the S21 already is and that's only 3-4 months away!
      • They call it the Pixel 6 Pro but feels like there is room for a Pixel 6 Pro Plus. The pricing is great for these phones but I'd gladly pay a little more to not have to deal with obvious shortcomings that are easily solvable by better hardware.
      • Samsung has come incredibly far with One UI. It's like they actually listen to customers and offer a pretty close to stock experience while only adding beneficial tweaks and software improvements. If Samsung stopped preloading their own homegrown, horrible, apps like Galaxy Store, Bixby, Samsung Internet, Samsung Cloud, etc. and let people make their own choices, it would be hard to ever chose Pixel over Samsung at this point, IMO.
      • Google, if you want a beta tester. Please let me know. :)
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    Google Pixel 6 Disassembly Teardown Repair Video Review [pbkreviews]

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 04:12 AM PDT

    Gigaset GS5 official with Helio G85 and 4,500 mAh removable battery

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 06:43 AM PDT

    WW Smartphone Sales Q3 21 - Samsung reclaimed #1, shipping 69.4 million units for a 21% share. Apple re-took #2 with the launch of the iPhone13, growing 14%. Xiaomi took #3 , with 44.0 million units, while OPPO & vivo took #4 & #5 respectively.

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 05:16 AM PDT

    App groups in 12

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 01:37 PM PDT

    Hey.

    Ive noticed apps grouped together now look completely different. They now protrude past the circle and the background is no longer clear. Am I the only one who doesn't enjoy this? I feel it looks unfinished as if the mask layer is missing. What do you think?

    https://imgur.com/a/ETY1iNw

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    An alternative to Magic Eraser

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 08:33 AM PDT

    All of you know that Google recently updated it's Photos app by adding a new feature "Magic Eraser" which i personally like very interesting. Though it is limited to pixel phones only, u can still have that feature [not comparable to what Magic Eraser does but almost same] in the app name "PicsArt". You can access that feature in Tools->Remove section of the app and its available to Premium users only. But the Android users know how they could access it ¯_( ͡° ͜Ê– ͡°)_/¯.

    NOTE: I know some of you may about this feature but i thought why not share this info which will help others to access it easily.

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    Google / Android Backup Greyed Out / Screen Lock Preventing Backup (Pattern, Pin, Fingerprint)

    Posted: 29 Oct 2021 04:06 AM PDT

    Anyone wondering, I believe I may have overcome this somehow so will post what I did to see if helps anyone else. Had the same issue with my new Google Pixel 6 Pro. I saw the below on another forum which originally didn't work for me but I added a few further steps to it and it seems to have done the trick. It is well known that if you backup with no security method enabled on the phone then it will work, although that isn't safe and convenient.

    Initial Method

    Delete back-up service on phone. (toggle)
    Delete back-up from Google Drive, if it still shows in drive (mine did not). (Menu, Backups)
    Disable PIN / Fingerprint service.
    Re-enable PIN/Fingerprint.
    Reboot phone.
    Long Press Google Drive app on phone. App Info and Clear cache. Re-enable drive back-up from settings. Button is now Blue / available, and back-up works with PIN/Fingerprint enabled.

    AT THIS POINT IT STILL DIDN'T WORK FOR ME. I then..

    Disabled backup from settings which will ultimately delete any that is present.

    Deleted my security pin and fingerprint.

    Deleted the cache on my Google 1 app.

    Re-enabled backup from settings (but didn't run it yet).

    Opened the Google 1 app and the option to Backup on there was greyed out. Left the Google 1 app open in the background.

    Go back to settings and run the backup manually.

    Leaving the settings pane in the background, toggle back to the google 1 app and watch the progress of the backup on the homepage. Verify it has been successful by checking when the last time is shown for the backup to have been completed.

    Once completed, go in to Google Drive. Menu, Backups and verify the backup is present there for your phone.

    Then re-enable your security pattern / password and fingerprint. (I chose pattern instead of pin on this occasion, but I have since added Pin and it seems fine).

    Once completed, verify in system settings / google 1 app that the backup is still present.

    That is for the first backup only. for automatic backups from here on, I'm still unsure. Will have to wait and see.

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