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    April 30, 2020

    Android What should I buy Thursday (Apr 30 2020) - Your weekly device inquiry thread!

    What should I buy Thursday (Apr 30 2020) - Your weekly device inquiry thread!

    Posted: 30 Apr 2020 04:12 AM PDT

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    Microsoft’s Your Phone app now lets you control music on a phone from your PC

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 10:56 AM PDT

    Google working on ‘attention alerts’ for Pixel Buds that detect crying, barking

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 12:14 PM PDT

    Happy 10th Birthday, HTC DROID Incredible!

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 06:01 PM PDT

    Waze testing lane guidance navigation

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 03:03 PM PDT

    Samsung to deliver a 250MP sensor

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 08:12 PM PDT

    Galaxy S20 Ultra owners report sudden crack in their phones’ camera bumps

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 01:10 PM PDT

    Android and Windows need a cross platform AirDrop alternative.

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 11:23 PM PDT

    Since Microsoft is working on Android devices, it would be a great opportunity for Google and Microsoft to work on a cross platform AirDrop alternative. I suppose that most of Android users have a Windows PC, so this integration would be great.

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    The Pixel Buds don't have ANC. But if Google could use their background noise cancellation magic from Google Meet, it would be a game changer.

    Posted: 30 Apr 2020 12:34 AM PDT

    Bose and Sony may have the best ANC but it's limited to continuous frequency noises. So it doesn't cancel out keyboards, honks and conversations. But what Google (demo), Nvidia (demo), Microsoft, Discord and others have demoed with their background noise cancellation algorithms seems more useful. The catch might be that it's only available when on WiFi, but it would still be useful in offices and cafes.

    There's precedent for Google removing the need for hardware - portrait mode used to be limited to dual cameras until GCam in Pixel.

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    Motorola Hint (2014): When Motorola/Google predicted the future but couldn't execute

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 06:29 AM PDT

    Samsung’s ‘Bean’ earbuds to launch as Galaxy BudsX

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 05:44 AM PDT

    Xiaomi releases a GPU driver update for its Snapdragon 865 devices..

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 10:51 AM PDT

    Google Play has been spreading advanced Android malware for years

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 03:57 PM PDT

    Samsung & AMD early tested mobile RDNA chip destroys Adreno 650 in GPU benchmark

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 06:16 AM PDT

    The two words Motorola doesn't want you to read: one upgrade for the $999 Edge+

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 10:11 PM PDT

    COVIDSafe App Teardown

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 05:27 AM PDT

    Stadia Controller can now capture screenshots on Android

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 06:13 PM PDT

    Google Meet premium video meetings—free for everyone

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 11:35 AM PDT

    Oneplus 8 - USB Tethering benchmarks (latency and bandwidth)

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 04:31 AM PDT

    Like an increasing number of others I've 'cut the cord' and only use my mobile for internet access. I use USB tethering to share the data with my other devices. I've done a few benchmarks to determine the USB tethering bandwidth and latency between my recently bought Oneplus 8 and it's tethered device. For testing purposes I connected it directly to my laptop and booted into Windows and Ubuntu. A few issues cropped up that I thought worth highlighting to see if there's anything that can be done to boost them and to get results from others. Relatively high latencies were observed as were connectivity issues during high bandwidth throughput. Results as below

    Latency (average of 100 pings, other devices added for comparison)

    Oneplus8

    Source Destination Transport Medium Latency (ms)
    OnePlus 8 Laptop (Windows) USB2 2.48
    OnePlus 8 Laptop (Ubuntu) USB2 1.44
    Laptop (Windows) OnePlus 8 USB2 2.74
    Laptop (Ubuntu) OnePlus 8 USB2 2.41

    ​

    Source Destination Transport Medium Latency (ms)
    OnePlus 8 Laptop (Windows) USB3 3.01
    OnePlus 8 Laptop (Ubuntu) USB3 1.49
    Laptop (Windows) OnePlus 8 USB3 3.20
    Laptop (Ubuntu) OnePlus 8 USB3 2.39

    ​

    Moto G6 Play (Android 9)

    Source Destination Transport Medium Latency (ms)
    Moto G6 Play Laptop (Windows) USB2 0.57
    Moto G6 Play Laptop (Ubuntu) USB2 0.55
    Laptop (Windows) Moto G6 Play USB2 0.86
    Laptop (Ubuntu) Moto G6 Play USB2 0.90

    ​

    Samsung XCover3 (Android 5)

    Source Destination Transport Medium Latency (ms)
    XCover 3 Laptop (Windows) USB2 0.51
    XCover 3 Laptop (Ubuntu) USB2 0.44
    Laptop (Windows) XCover 3 USB2 0.67
    Laptop (Ubuntu) XCover 3 USB2 0.46

    ​

    The latency results shows that

    • The Oneplus 8 has around 3-5 times higher latency than the older and significantly lower specced Samsung XCover3 and Moto G6 Play.
    • The windows latency timings are around twice that of the Unbuntu timings for the Oneplus, the OS type had a minimal effect on the XCover 3 and no influence on the G6
    • USB3 adds another 0.5ms to the round trip times in both directions over USB2 for windows but has no influence when used under Ubuntu
    • The response times from the mobile devices are generally slower than the response times from the laptop

    Given the push for 5G for higher bandwidth and lower latencies (when SA 5G NR is implemented at least) it's a step backward to have increased latency times on the user equipment. This will add to the overall latency. It would be interesting to see what latency times other people are getting over USB tethering not just for the Oneplus 8 but for other makes and models too.

    ​

    Bandwidth (measured using iperf3 server on the laptop and client on the Oneplus via USB3 average of 10 seconds)

    Download

    Source Destination Streams Bandwidth (Mbit/s)
    OnePlus 8 Laptop (Windows) 1 565Mbit/s
    OnePlus 8 Laptop (Windows) 2 589Mbit/s
    OnePlus 8 Laptop (Ubuntu) 1 650mbit/s
    OnePlus 8 Laptop (Ubuntu) 2 652mbit/s

    ​

    Upload

    Source Destination Streams Bandwidth (Mbit/s)
    Laptop (Windows) OnePlus 8 1 627Mbit/s
    Laptop (Windows) OnePlus 8 2 875Mbit/s
    Laptop (Ubuntu) OnePlus 8 1 947Mbit/s
    Laptop (Ubuntu) OnePlus 8 2 833Mbit/s

    The iperf tests caused stability issues on the Oneplus 8 whilst using USB3. The USB interface would often crash and reset (confirmed via crash log in logcat). No stability issues were identified using USB2 or WiFi. USB2 bandwidth was maxed out so figures not included in the results. Max Wifi speeds were around 550Mbit/s using 5Ghz WiFi 5. I don't have another Wifi 6 device to test with.

    ​

    The bandwidth results shows that

    • There's stability issues using USB3 when pushing bandwidth to the limit
    • Both download and uploads were faster in Ubuntu
    • Windows needed two parallel streams to attain top speed whereas in Ubuntu one was sufficient
    • In usage terms max download speeds (from the Oneplus to the laptop) averaged at 652Mbit/s and and upload speed max averaged out at 947Mbit/s. I don't know if this is a hardware or driver/software limit.

    With 5G already hitting over 1Gbit/s the tethering bandwidth over USB3 is now the limiting factor. There's plenty of bandwidth available on the underlying USB3 protocol so its up to manufacturers to push the envelope. It's worth mentioning that Oneplus are still one of only a small selection of manufacturers that have implemented USB3 so this is worth commending. Most are still releasing phones restricted to USB2 speeds. I don't have another mobile with USB3 to test with for comparison. As with the latency findings it would be interesting to see what results others are getting for USB3 tethering for both the Oneplus 8 and other devices.

    App used for testing on the mobiles was Hurricane Electrics 'he.net Network Tools'

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    $300 Motorola Hyper One: Honestly looks pretty sweet? Snapdragon 675 | 4/128 | pop up camera | water resistant | 3.5 mm | 4000 mAh

    Posted: 30 Apr 2020 02:14 AM PDT

    Just received my Moto G Power upgraded from a G7.

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 10:04 PM PDT

    My previous phone was a Moto G7 and I was getting tired off being at around %15 power with about 8 hours of use. My work day usually last anywhere from 8 to 12 hours so I've had to start bringing a power bank to charge the phone back up before my work day ends. The great thing is the G7 didn't take long to charge, %50 from %15 takes about 20 mins, and that's plenty of battery for the rest of the day. Loved the performance from the G7 as it was a big upgrade from my previous Samsung J7.

    Absolutely blown away by the performance and battery life of the Moto G Power. Now at the end of my work day I'm still having over %70 battery. Gives me a lot of peace of mind knowing my phone is not going to die and I don't need to bring a charger around with me at all times. If anyone has battery problems and hates lugging around chargers and power banks like me I would highly recommend this phone.

    5000mah is such a huge difference and I feel like it's one of the best phones you can get at that price point right now.

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    Do you think there is a chance that Samsung will start selling exynos processors?

    Posted: 29 Apr 2020 11:18 PM PDT

    Yesterday, I saw a few posts that compared Android phones to iPhones and some people in the replies to one of them talked about the processor in the iPhone SE and how it allows Apple to keep the device pretty cheap compared to the snapdragon, so it got me thinking:

    is there a chance Samsung will offer the exynos to other companies? I know there is something about Samsung stopping to work on the the custom chips and google wanting their own processor but it can make the mobile processors cheaper and the exynos processor better

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