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    November 08, 2021

    Android Daily Superthread (Nov 08 2021) - Your daily thread for questions, device recommendations and general discussions!

    Daily Superthread (Nov 08 2021) - Your daily thread for questions, device recommendations and general discussions!

    Posted: 08 Nov 2021 04:00 AM PST

    Note 1. Check MoronicMondayAndroid, which serves as a repository for our retired weekly threads. Just pick any thread and Ctrl-F your way to wisdom!

    Note 2. Join our IRC and Telegram chat-rooms! Please see our wiki for instructions.

    Please post your questions here. Feel free to use this thread for general questions/discussion as well.

    The /r/Android wiki now has a list of recommended phones and covers most areas, the links have been added below. Any suggestions or changes are welcome. Please contact us if you would like to help maintain this section.

    Entry level (most affordable devices costing under $250 (US)/ $325 (Canada)/ €200 (Europe)/ £200/ ₹12,500 (India)

    Midrange section, covering the $250-500(US)/$300-700(Canada)/€200-500/£200-450/₹12,500-30,000 segment

    Flagship section, containing the most expensive devices with the highest end specifications

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    Android security updates: Full 3 year history of the OnePlus 6T + Comparison with other devices

    Posted: 07 Nov 2021 09:26 AM PST

    Hello everyone, this is a follow-up post to https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/i94n1u/did_oneplus_keep_their_promise_oneplus_6ts/.

    I have now owned my OnePlus 6T for almost three years and during all of this time, I have used a script on my phone that documented information like the current security patch level and the kernel version. Now, since the support for the 6T officially ends after 3 years, I figured it was time to finally share the full set of data that I collected. During the same time, I also ran the same script on some other devices, which should give us some measure of comparison between manufacturers.

    To be clear, I have used Oxygen Updater and followed the news to always know when a new update got released. So the data that you see below is the best-case scenario.

    So let's dive right into the main plot, which you can find here: https://imgur.com/a/ELKWm0Z

    Description of what is going on:

    • For this plot, the starting date is November 6th, 2018, and the x-axis counts the days that have passed since then, meaning that x=10 corresponds to November 16th, 2018.
    • The y-axis counts the age of the security patch in days. Say the current security patch level of the phone is 2018-11-01 (November 1st, 2018) and the current date is November 28, 2018 (x=22), then the security patch is 28 days old (y=28). Whenever the security patch level is updated, the y value changes accordingly, which is why you see jumps in the plot. Hence, on each day with a jump on the y-axis, the phone received an update changing the security patch level. However, not all updates change the security patch level and hence, number of jumps != number of updates.
    • Depending on the age of the security patch, I used different colors for the data points. Days for which the security patch was between 0 and 30 days old have a green data point, while those between 15-30 days are orange, etc. (see the legend).
    • Besides the different colors, there are also two different line widths. On the one hand, if the line width is thin, the phone was not on the most recent version of Android. On the other hand, if the line width is thick, the phone was on the most recent version of Android. For example, at x=302, Android 10 was released, but the phone was not immediately updated; hence, the line goes from thick to thin. However, 63 days later at x=365, the phone received the version upgrade and the line becomes thick again. All of this happens twice, from Android 9 to 10, and from Android 10 to 11.
    • In the top left corner, you can see the average age of the security patch
    • At the very bottom, you can see how much time was spent 'at each color'. For example: On 48.08% (orange) of all days, the security patch was between 31 and 60 days old. And the same for all other colors.

    Some statistics:

    - On average, the security patch on the OnePlus 6T was 56 days old. For comparison, a phone that always gets the latest patch at the beginning of each month (i.e. a Pixel phone), would have an average of ~15 days, and a phone that gets patched at the beginning of each second month would have an average of ~30 days.

    • The best we got was a security patch with an age of 5 days (at release), while the worst case was a security patch level that was 109(!) days old.
    • I also took a look at the time between new versions of OxygenOS and found that, on average, OnePlus updated the 6T every 39 days. The fastest update was after 12 days, and the longest update took 72 days. Overall, we got 27 updates in total.
    • It took OnePlus 63 days to upgrade from Android 9 to 10, and 338 days to upgrade from Android 10 to 11. Android 12 will not be available.
    • The version of the Linux kernel was updated only twice during the three years, namely with every major Android update. Currently, the kernel version is 61 revisions behind.

    Finally, a comparison with some other devices from family/friends: https://imgur.com/a/4611iF9

    • This is always the best-case scenario, i.e. update on the first day of release.
    • All plots start at the release day; hence, the starting points of all plots are different.
    • The time span is always three years. If there is some white space to the right, then the three years have not yet passed for this model

    Finally, I am just human. So there might be mistakes in the plots. Nevertheless, I hope that this data is interesting for some of you. My next phone will be the Pixel 6 Pro, and I will most likely do the same thing for this phone.

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    This Is Embrassing, Google. Pixel 6 Pro Genshin Impact FPS Performance/Power Test [Golden Reviewer]

    Posted: 07 Nov 2021 04:02 AM PST

    Google lists screen protector brands ‘certified’ to work with the Pixel 6’s fingerprint sensor

    Posted: 07 Nov 2021 09:36 PM PST

    [Hugh Jeffreys] Pixel 6 Pro Teardown and Repair Assessment - Serialisation With A Twist

    Posted: 06 Nov 2021 11:09 PM PDT

    Daily Superthread (Nov 07 2021) - Your daily thread for questions, device recommendations and general discussions!

    Posted: 07 Nov 2021 04:15 AM PST

    Note 1. Check MoronicMondayAndroid, which serves as a repository for our retired weekly threads. Just pick any thread and Ctrl-F your way to wisdom!

    Note 2. Join our IRC and Telegram chat-rooms! Please see our wiki for instructions.

    Please post your questions here. Feel free to use this thread for general questions/discussion as well.

    The /r/Android wiki now has a list of recommended phones and covers most areas, the links have been added below. Any suggestions or changes are welcome. Please contact us if you would like to help maintain this section.

    Entry level (most affordable devices costing under $250 (US)/ $325 (Canada)/ €200 (Europe)/ £200/ ₹12,500 (India)

    Midrange section, covering the $250-500(US)/$300-700(Canada)/€200-500/£200-450/₹12,500-30,000 segment

    Flagship section, containing the most expensive devices with the highest end specifications

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    Samsung Galaxy S21 FE and S22 Unpacked event info - Jon Prosser

    Posted: 06 Nov 2021 10:07 PM PDT

    Source

    Unpacked event for S21 FE January 4, 2022

    No pre-order period

    Available January 11, 2022

    Unpacked event for S22 lineup

    February 8, 2022 @ 10:00am ET

    Pre-orders begin same day (2/8)

    Available February 18, 2022

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    Sorry state of high end Android phones in India

    Posted: 07 Nov 2021 05:28 PM PST

    Its really sad that I have to write this post but I feel really sad looking at the state of high end Android phones in India.

    Samsung is probably one of the leader in this space, however the phones are actually using a custom exynos processor which is not a match for superior Snapdragon that is sold in USA for a phone with same name. That means we Indians are paying higher price with taxes included for a phone that doesn't match what we get in USA/ China.

    Google doesn't sell its latest Pixel in India. So we never get to have that as an option of pure Android experience. The only way to get Pixel in India is through Amazon India, without a "fulfilled by amazon" tag and ofcourse without warranty. I have heard reports of some screen display issues with Pixels so I am not sure if Importing it and using it is the way to go without warranty.

    Oneplus phones were the best bang for buck with latest Snapdragon and Oxygen OS which was very near to Stock android. However with latest releases Oneplus looks like it has finally settled and has started using Color OS instead of Oxygen OS anymore. The camera was never really strength for Oneplus phones, however that could have been overlooked because we were getting latest processor with stpck android.

    I wouldn't even consider the Xiaomi, Oppo etc in premium range until they clearly reveal all the bloatware the phone comes bundled with. In many cases we are not even sure if the phone is performing analytics and data collection behind the scene with that bloatware.

    Overall its a very sorry state of affairs when it comes to Android phones situation in India. Would love to hear your opinions on the same.

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    Iphone 13 Pro Max vs Google Pixel 6 Pro camera comparison by Tony Northrup

    Posted: 07 Nov 2021 12:39 PM PST

    TLDR: The pixel is the better photography camera. Link: https://youtu.be/uUPlBf06Fwo

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